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December 14, 2009

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Robert Sullivan

Good bit, and entertaining. Is Dan nibbling at the edges of a serious hypothesis that deserves consideration? "When the ratio of false-positives to positives goes below 50% it is time to get new tools."

mls

Dan, I fear you may have been scooped:

From http://www.mavitunasecurity.com/

"So we developed a new technology which can confirm vulnerabilities on demand, which allowed us to develop the first false positive free web application security scanner."

However their claims are neither ironic nor spoofed. While there is enough wiggle room and caveats in the surrounding paragraphs for the Mavituna guys to make their case, the phrase "false positive free web application security scanner" should cause some consternation.

Dan Cornell

Robert:

I suppose it depends what you are looking to use the automated scanner for. If you want it to be point-and-click then looking at the ratio of false positives to actual results makes sense. However if you are using it as an information gathering tool to focus follow-on manual efforts the ratio is less important than the time required to validate results and cull out the false positives.

We are getting ready to release some technology we put together that lets you import results from multiple scanning tools and then merge them together. One item of interest is what sort of metrics we can track, and looking at false positive ratios per tool might be interesting.

--Dan

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